Microsoft Office Live Small Business Community

The truth is that your very first post into this community points to your home business blog that is not even a part of Office Live Small Business and that your spam techniques are not welcome here.

Hello teddarling:

I think what djcmilton is trying to do is to give the people here a demo of some of the ways to market your product online. Sometimes in marketing it is a fine line that you have to walk but anyway thank you djcmilton your post is very educational and gives allot of pointers on how one can market their business (It would be nice though if I would come to your forum and post that I could at least keep the same signiture as I use here)

Gary
New Mountain Tavern		Silver Moon Furniture

Hello scbyte,

I can appreciate your postive attitude and you are a great asset to this community and your defense of the OP. I commend you for standing up. And this is what I am addressing with my post. If it were you who were to point a link to a site that provided great marketing information, it would be seen as a value to the community. Mostly because what you post is kept within the community and you provide answers to peoples questions.

In the case of the OP, they have provided no value under their username to the community through articles, answers to other peoples posts or any other value that I have seen. What I do see here, is a link to a persons website that is attempting to get my email address in exchange for a free product so that they can probably fill my inbox 50 times a day with reasons I should purchase an upgrade product. I have been involved in more than enough forums and communities to know that I do not want to see single posters pointing to their site without taking part in the community and providing real value.

For others that may read this, forums are a great place to help with the marketing of your website. But for it to be effective, links should primarily be only in your signature (unless posting to a resource asked about) and you must provide value to the community. Good examples of this would be scbyte, advisor norris, royster and many others.

I could certainly post links to a web site that I know would help people with internet marketing and has helped me in the past that would cost nothing. However, I won't as I am here to help when I can and learn when I can.

Ted

Hello Ted:

I try to think beyond the box also it would be a very boring world if we all though the same, I think the greater the deversity the greater the strength of a community, milton had some good points even though he advertised his community (level 3 domain name). Some of the other people you have mentioned are part of a group called "The Community Council" that has not been officially interduced to the general community yet. finally the posts you post here are not just limited to the community all pages here are index, follow. so everything you say here will be indexed and listed on all the search engines. anyway to be fair to milton I list referral links in my signiture too so really there is no difference between him and me. online marketing you do walk a fine line.

Gary
New Mountain Tavern		Silver Moon Furniture

It's true that this was my very first post into this foum community, but is'nt there a first time for everything in life?  As far as spam goes, the only people who receive e-mails from me are those who choose to fill out the form.  It is clearly expressed on my main web page that people will receive an e-mail should they decide to fill out the form, therefore it is not spam.   It's just a way to create a list of people who have shown an initial intrest in what I have to offer.  As far as content is concerned, it is best to look beyond the words and tap into the principals upon which I reflect - determination, consistency - applicable in every area of life.

Hello djcmilton:

You are able in your profile to add a banner ad to your signiture (signiture accepts html code) this way with your posts here in the community (since for robots it is index, follow) you will be creating a one way back link to your website from a Page Rank 4 site. Also you do not need to be running office live small business to post here everyone is welcome regardless of the system they are using. Darren as far as you inproving the marketabilty of your website you should correct your meta tags so that you will have a greater chance of success. I am just a little fish in a big ocean but I have my meta tags optimized for max effect. Pick any search engine of your choice and enter the keywords "Silver Moon furniture" or "New Mountain Tavern" without the "" marks (lets make this fair) and see the point I am trying to make.

Gary
New Mountain Tavern		Silver Moon Furniture

Gary,

It's true that a community provides a lot of points of view in regards to what is discussed within a community. I have no problem with that. There are plenty of people that place links in there signatures as well and I have no problem with that. For most communities that is the only acceptable place to put links to your site.

My remarks come from experience in dozens of online communities where often times a person makes one post in a community forum with a link to their site in an attempt to create backlinks to their own site (spamming the search engines) and provide no further value. This is the impression when a first post by a person is as the first post here.

Many of the experts within the internet marketing community will tell you that those types of posts will get you banned. Instead, you should provide valuable feedback and ask questions and let your signature do your marketing for you. If you do so, people will likely follow the links in your signature to see if they can learn more from you. This is valuable whether the links have nofollow attributes set or not.

djcmilton,

Welcome to the community. My post is more based on experience in the dozens of forums that I frequent and gather experience from. Perhaps a better way to start would be to provide a tip on your ideas with internet marketing. Maybe how your use of a newsletter form can help a business or your experience with it. Then provide your signature at the bottom of your posts as Gary (scbyte) has.

A great tip in fact is the blog that you have. Using Blogger and providing information to others, with links to your primary website (once you start providing that value) is a great way to get started with internet marketing as Blogger sites get indexed quickly (it helps that Blogger is owned by Google).

Your information on determination and persistence is dead on in any endeavor. And if you are willing to help others or ask questions, then I more than welcom you to the forum. I have't posted much here myself as I am so busy working on an application that I think many here would appreciate.

I apologize for the harshness to you if you are willing to contribute.

Ted

Hello Ted:

don't worry about it we all have our off days (me included) I got banned a year ago from Yahoo-answers and still have not figured out what it was that I suppostly done, the only reply I get is something on the order of read the terms of service and figure it out yourself. I am so greatful that it is nothing like that here. where I can have a different viewpoint and am free to express them

Gary
New Mountain Tavern		Silver Moon Furniture

By the way Darren go to your myspace and accept me to your friend list

Gary
New Mountain Tavern		Silver Moon Furniture